From the Comments: Michael Voris
October 3, 2012 14 Comments
In the comments last night, one of my British friends, Kathleen, asked this
Are you familiar with the great Michael Voris NEO? Here is a pretty pessimistic video of his:
[I removed the link, as it was bad, which happens to us all, and the video follows, anyway]
Any truth in his views in your opinion?
I hadn’t seen this one, although I have heard of Michael Voris, of course. Here’s the video she referenced. Watch it, and then we’ll talk.
As I told Kathleen, there’s far too much here for a reply to a comment. so that’s what this post is,
It’s a pretty negative view isn’t it, there’s a good amount of truth in it but, it’s not the whole truth by any means. So, let’s be reasonably systematic about it.
- How important is this election? Yep, I think he’s pretty much right here. Obama’s drive to transform us into Europe (that’s shorthand but, I think you all know what I mean) if carried on for the next four years may well be beyond the tipping point and unrecoverable.
- The Timeline he’s not particularly wrong here, with a few exceptions, strangely since about 1980 divorce has trended down, although that may well be because co-habitation has been trending up. His main point though is correct, the 1960s were pivotal, with the emergence of the so-called ‘New Left‘ with a decided anti-American cast to it. The war in Vietnam lent strength to it, I’m not so sure the sexual revolution had that much to do with it, the young have always been like that. You do remember St. Augustine‘s prayer, “Lord make me chaste but not yet”? The difference is that at the same time we were implementing policies that with the welfare system were making it possible to never grow up into responsible adulthood. The important thing here is that it didn’t just happen, the generation was taught by the left-leaning, not to say communist, university faculty raised in the New Deal era when academia became divorced from the rest of the country. It’s also important to remember that it was a splinter of the Democratic party at the time, remember the riots between the anti-war protesters and union laborers, both Democratic constituencies.
- Freedom of Religion Well, yes but. the funny thing about this is that the main point of that clause in the 1st Amendment was to protect- Catholics, and to a lesser extent, Jews. I follow his point but, what he seems to be advocating here is a kind of, sort of theocracy, which is no solution at all. Either you protect religions, all religions, or you don’t. Like almost everything else in early America, religion was a free market, it’s up to the various religions to sell their views to the populace. The main difference is that the population was much closer to the land, and much more in touch with reality, which demonstrated that morality works, in a far more direct way than can be shown today, when gaming the system may well work better.
- Abortion, and contraception Yes, and no. Many do but, the funny thing is even my liberal ELCA doesn’t accept abortion, strangely though, and this is common in a lot of mainline protestant churches, the churches do NOT accept abortion but contribute to the National Council of Churches which very quietly does. Contraception, I, like my church, put in a different category, there is an unarguable difference in my mind between prevention and destruction. I’m against both but not nearly as strongly with regards to contraception. It should also be noted that the average parishioner if very often unaware of this and would strongly disagree with that support. His point here on black churches is very well taken. The largest abortion provider, Planned Parenthood, was founded by Margaret Sanger who was an infamous eugenicist, rising nearly to Hitleresque levels in her anti-black racism, and to this day, far more abortions are performed in the black community than in the population at large.
- Protestant v Catholic He has some point here but, it is unhelpful unless the Catholic Church would like to fight this battle alone. There are some very weird protestants out there but, on the whole protestants are just as horrified as Catholics. And the Catholic Church in America is far from blameless for this mess, either. it’s mostly time for us all to get over it, and work together. Ben Franklin was right, “If we don’t hang together, we’re going to hang separately.”
- Morality Get over yourself here. It’s not catholic morality, it’s the Judeao- Christian ethic which we all share. In a related note, which also ties into point 2, if we have to legislate morality, we’re done. It has to be lived, not because of the fear of the government, or even God. There are plenty of moral atheists and agnostics out there, such as Ayn Rand.
- Purveyor of Filth, yada, yada, yada. Yep, we are, it’s what we do, sell things. Last time I looked, we didn’t force you at gunpoint into the theater to watch it. It a free market, if the world didn’t buy it, we wouldn’t make it. Look to your own souls on this one, world.
To come back to point five for my conclusion, here’s a video I flat love, as do many of us. So many, in fact, that it went viral a few months ago, not because its Catholic but, because it speaks to, and for, many of us.
In the final analysis, Voris is not wrong but, he’s very chauvinistic and superficial here. This election is very critical to the future of America qua America but raising barriers between Christians is not the answer. The actual answer is convincing many Catholics, who are largely union members who have voted Democratic because their parents and grandparents did, that the Democratic party has left them to become an anti-American Progressive party. I also note for the umpteenth time that the Catholic hierarchy appears to have been awakened and are providing superb leadership, which many of us are getting in line to support.
Final Point. This is America, we can do anything, including fixing the mess we’ve made but, it’s going to take time. For now, we need to slow down the train.
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