If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight? | The D.C. Clothesline

The rhetoric of the people trying to legislate gun control is becoming very heated, as I suspect most of you know. You also know that in the last analysis the 2d Amendment was to ensure the citizenry against tyranny, all other purposes are secondary. There is a lot of talk of bills banning all semi-automatic weapons, which is pretty much the equivalent of de facto repealing the amendment, in my and other observers eyes. If passed it will set off a constitutional crisis and I think if a serious attempt is made to enforce it on the American citizenry, it will be very likely to set off the second American Civil War. We are going to be talking about this more but here is a primer on the stakes.

We, each and every one of us, need to be thinking about this, time may be short, which is one of the things that bother me, too much of this is being rushed without time to reflect and consider the consequences, which are likely to be severe.

Dean Garrison wrote an article in the D. C. Clothesline recently which gives a very good overview of the issues and the stake. I implore you to read this and consider very carefully where you will stand, like everything else, preparation and planning is important. Here’s Dean.

I feel a tremendous responsibility to write this article though I am a little apprehensive. Thinking about the possibility of rising up against our own government is a frightening thing for many of us. I am not Johnny Rambo and I will be the first to admit that I do not want to die. The reason I feel compelled to write this, however, is simply because I don’t think the average American is equipped with the facts. I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and I carry the responsibility of all small independent bloggers to tell the truth. So my focus today is to lay out your constitutional rights as an American, and let you decide what to do with those rights.

About a month ago I let the “democracy” word slip in a discussion with a fellow blogger. I know better. Americans have been conditioned to use this term. It’s not an accurate term and it never has been a correct term to describe our form of government. The truth is that the United States of America is a constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because our representatives are selected by democratic elections, but ultimately our representatives are required to work within the framework of our constitution. In other words, even if 90% of Americans want something that goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a violation of constitutional rights.

If you are religious you might choose to think of it this way… Say that members of your congregation decide that mass fornication is a good thing. Do they have the right to change the teachings of your God? The truth is the truth. It doesn’t matter how many people try to stray from it. Did I just compare our founders to God? In a way I did, but please note that I am not trying to insult anyone. For the purpose of the American Government our constitution and founders who wrote it are much like God is to believers. It is the law. It is indisputable.

Our founders did not want a “democracy” for they feared a true democracy was just as dangerous as a monarchy. The founders were highly educated people who were experienced in defending themselves against tyranny. They understood that the constitution could protect the people by limiting the power of anyone to work outside of it much better than a pure system of popularity. A system of checks and balances was set up to help limit corruption of government and also the potential for an “immoral majority” developing within the American People. We have forgotten in this country that we are ultimately ruled by a constitution.

Why is a democracy potentially just as dangerous as a monarchy? Let’s look at something that Benjamin Franklin said because it answers that question more fully and succinctly than I can.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -Benjamin Franklin

Even 230+ years ago our founders were perceptive enough to realize that democracy was a dangerous form of government. How so? Because the citizens of a country can become just as corrupt as any government. We have seen evidence of this throughout history. Ask Native Americans and African-Americans if this population can become corrupt.

I think in 2012 we are seeing evidence of what Franklin was trying to tell us. Just because a majority of people may support certain ideas it does not mean that those ideas are just. In simple terms, just because most Americans love our president and voted for him, it does not mean that he has the power to go against our constitutional rights.

Next I’d like to review the text of the second amendment. It is very clear. This is the law of this land. So when Senator Feinstein or President Obama talk about taking your guns, you need to think about something. Are they honoring their sworn oath to uphold the constitution?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

supremeThis is a pretty clear statement. The fact is that it took 232 years for the Supreme Court to even rule on this amendment because it has never been successfully challenged. In 2008 a case of Columbia v. Heller the Supreme Court ruled that a handgun ban in Washington D.C. was unconstitutional. One also has to take this into consideration. The Supreme Court supports your right to own guns. If you want to research this decision further you can start here.

For those who try to debate the spirit of the 2nd amendment, they are truly no different from people who will try to take Biblical quotes out of context to try to support their immoral decisions. The founders were very clear on the intent of the 2nd amendment. Let me share a few quick quotes here:

The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good. -George Washington

The Constitution shall never be construed….to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. -Samuel Adams

founderspicI could find hundreds of quotes like these. This country was built on the right to bear arms. It was built on the rights of an individual to bear arms, regardless of what his government or neighbor happened to think. This is crystal clear. Ironically the people who voice their opinions against this right have their free speech protected by your guns. Without guns in this country, all other amendments become null and void, simply because “We the People” will lose our power of enforcement.

We need to keep this in mind as our “representatives” try to push gun bans. I don’t care if 99% of people are in support of gun bans (which is far from the case), it is a violation of our constitutional rights, plain and simple.

A constitutional republic protects the rights of the individual even when their ideas are very much  in the minority. If I were the only person in America who believed in the 2nd amendment, I would still be within my rights to call upon it. You would all think I was insane and possibly celebrate if I was gunned down, but in the end I would be the only true American among us.

Our framers were very clear on this. If my government comes to take my guns, they are violating one of my constitutional rights that is covered by the 2nd amendment.

soulonfireIt is not my right, at that point, but my responsibility to respond in the name of liberty. What I am telling you is something that many are trying to soft sell, and many others have tried to avoid putting into print, but I am going to say it. The time for speaking in code is over.

If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under. You have the right to kill any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty. I am thinking about self-defense and not talking about inciting a revolution. Re-read Jefferson’s quote. He talks about a “last resort.” I am not trying to start a Revolt, I am talking about self-defense. If the day for Revolution comes, when no peaceful options exist, we may have to talk about that as well. None of us wants to think about that, but please understand that a majority can not take away your rights as an American citizen. Only you can choose to give up your rights.

Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their “elected servants” say.A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play.

I just wrote what every believer in the constitution wants to say, and what every constitutional blogger needs to write. The truth of the matter is that this type of speech is viewed as dangerous and radical or subversive, and it could gain me a world of trouble that I do not want. It is also the truth. To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to kill them. You are protected by our constitution.

Most of the articles I am reading on the subject are trying to give you clues without just coming out and saying it. I understand that because certain things in this country will get you on a list that you don’t want to be on. I may well be on that list. This blog is small and growing so I may not be there yet, but I have dreams. I also have my own list of subversives and anyone who attempts to deny my constitutional rights is on that list.

I am not the “subversive” here, it is the political representatives who are threatening to take away my inalienable rights. If they come to take my guns and I leave a few of them wounded or dead, and I somehow survive, I have zero doubt that I will spend a long time in prison and may face an execution. ButI would much rather be a political prisoner than a slave.

If I go down fighting then I was not fighting to harm these human beings. I was simply defending my liberty and yours. It is self-defense and it is what our country was built on. We won our freedom in self-defense.We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770′s and we will not be ruled in 2012 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.

This is a case of right and wrong. As of now the 2nd amendment stands. It has never been repealed. If Feinstein or Barack have a problem with the constitution then they should be removed from office. They are not defending the constitution which they have sworn an oath to protect. It is treasonous to say the least. They would likely say the same about me, but I have the constitution, the founders, and the supreme court on my side. They only have their inflated egos.

I am not writing this to incite people. I am writing this in hopes that somehow I can make a tiny difference. I have no idea how many of my neighbors have the will to defend their constitutional rights. 2%? 20%? I am afraid that 20% is a high number, unfortunately. When push comes to shove many people may give up and submit to being ruled. I believe that our government is banking on this.

What I do know is that this country was founded by people who had balls the size of Texas and Patriotic Americans take shit off of no one, especially our own government. For evidence of that, you might research the Revolutionary War. My question is how many Patriots are left?

I would hope that our officials come to realize that, regardless of our numbers, we still exist because they are calling Patriotic Americans to action. They are making us decide if we want to die free or submit to their rule. I can not tell you where you should stand on that. I do know that it may make the difference between living a life of freedom or slavery.

thinkingYou must start thinking about this because I believe that the day is coming soon and I personally believe it has already been planned. Not all conspiracy theories are hogwash. They may throw down the gauntlet soon and my suggestion is that you prepare yourself to react.

I mean no disrespect to our elected officials but they need to understand that “We the People” will not be disarmed. If they proceed then it is they that are provoking us and we will act accordingly. We are within our rights to do so.

For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if you support them, you have chosen your side.

Are you willing to die to take my guns?

If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight? | The D.C. Clothesline.

I probably have little need to tell you my views on this but, you will have to make up your own mind, each and every one of you. This could very quickly turn into a moment of history in which you will have to rely on your Life, Fortune and especially your Sacred Honor. That makes it an individual decision. Think hard and think very clearly looking at consequences. This has the possibility of moving very quickly beyond the hypothetical.

God grant us all clear heads and rational thinking.


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34 Responses to If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight? | The D.C. Clothesline

  1. loopyloo305 says:

    I am afraid that some of those instigating this do want to cause a new civil war, I truly believe they would relish the destruction of this country and many of their followers either agree, don’t care, or are just following along because that is all they have ever done. God bless you Neo, I think that if this country survives the next four years, it will never again be the country that we love and never again any pretense of following the foundation is was established upon. As you can tell, I really don’t see a good future for this country. The only thing that I have faith in is that it is all a part of what will usher in the return of Jesus.


    • NEO says:

      Lots of good points there, Loopy, and God bless you as well.


  2. Freedom, by the way says:

    Very powerful, Nebraska. Who would have thought 25 years ago that our federal government would become a bane of the very freedoms that each and every one or our elected representatives are sworn to uphold?
    I am sure by now that you have heard or read about Obama’s sweeping gun control legislation. It makes Feinstein’s look like a weak kitten. Obama wants national registration of firearms which of course, is the first step to confiscation. How else can you take away guns if you don’t have a list of gun owners and which firearms they possess?
    So I will add to the warnings in your post:
    One of the upshots of this new pressure on gun owners is that law-abiding citizens will now be looking to an underground black market to secure new weapons.
    Anyway you look at this, The United States of America loses.


    • NEO says:

      That’s the worst part, for now,Freedom, that we are even talking about this, in America. Sad days, and yes I have, the article is a pretty good guide, I think.


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  4. mstrmac711 says:

    We stand for freedom or we fall for anything. It will fundamentally change the country if brave men and women are not willing to fight all enemies foreign and domestic. There is a stain on the Republic which can be cleansed. But if there is no more Republic, there is nothing but a stain.


    • NEO says:

      Exactly so, Mac. And if this is what is necessary, this is what will be done.


  5. Great post, Neo. It echoes all my own fears for this country and mimics my fears for the Church and our 1st Amendment rights as well. If you aren’t willing to fight to defend these fundamental rights you are fit to live in a country free of tyranny.


    • NEO says:

      I agree, and there is more coming on this as well, if I can get it shaped up.


      • Good. It needs to be shouted from the rooftops.


        • NEO says:

          Hard to write without sounding like a firebrand but, it will be done.


        • Maybe we need a few more firebrands. 🙂


        • NEO says:

          Armies of them, actually. 🙂


        • Yes, and well armed to boot. 🙂


        • NEO says:

          Indeed so. 🙂


  6. I meant to say “you are NOT fit to live in a country free of tyranny.”


    • NEO says:

      I know, and saw it. No worries. 🙂


      • My fingers are slower than my mind – and that’s saying something! 🙂


        • NEO says:

          I hear that 🙂


  7. bydesign001 says:

    Happy New Year Dave to you and yours,

    Excellent post. I agree, we must be prepared to take a stand, stand tall, hard and firm.

    As you know, I live in NYC and until now, never owned a firearm. I am now more determined than ever to make every effort to obtain one in spite of Michael Bloomberg and the law.

    The thought of our politicians violation the Constitution and the liberties of every American is unacceptable and not to be tolerated.


    • NEO says:

      I wish you and yours a happy and peaceful new year as well.

      I hear you, and agree. NYC, if this goes bad, in many of the scenarios I see will be a deathtrap, so be careful. You know more than most so be aware, always, and find somebody to train you and especially make very sure you’ll be able to use it, some find they can’t and end up arming the opposition.

      I have, if I can pull it together a connected post coming up tomorrow.


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  9. AFVet says:

    Superb !
    They can try and take my guns,… after I run out of bullets.


    • NEO says:

      Concur, my friend.


  10. mtsweat says:

    Good stuff my friend. A quick question… have you noticed a lack of ammo on the shelves? They’re barren here in our neck of the woods…


    • NEO says:

      Very, that’ll be commented on in my post tomorrow but, the short answer is, anything that has been used by the military since 1900 in sold out and back-ordered to the point that nobody has any idea on resupply.


  11. NEO, you mentioned the danger of how quickly this is happening. For some time I’ve thought about what the flash point will be. Will it be when a bill is passed? Will it be when you are forced to go to your individual or your city’s police department to register your gun, or hand over in the beginning, only certain types of guns – and will violence break out in some city somewhere that leads the rest of the nation to revolt – too late, after it’s already law? Will we gather on the steps of Congress as this legislation makes it’s way to a vote? We did that by the thousands for ObamaCare and it did nothing. Marching on the Capitol requires millions of bodies.

    I fear a creep. One state establishes a law now, and others follow at other times, separate from each other. Local law enforcement will handle things in differing ways. One terrible step at a time.

    I wonder if this is some way we can fight before a violent flash point happens between. Whatever the law looks like, we fully understand now that contacting Congress is useless, promising to vote them out is useless – because anti-Second Amendment creatures rule the country.

    Over my cold dead body? How does that fight get underway?


    • NEO says:

      I don’t know, I’m still trying to figure out some scenarios too, Maggie. I have the same fears, a very blue state, like NY or IL starts off, gets a bit of resistance and handles it, maybe quietly, maybe loudly making an example. When does it flash nationwide, or does it? You’re right, Congress is useless, bought and paid for, at least for now, but the big one is, what, if anything does the military do, I have great confidence in the American soldier but not so much in the especially flag officers. Hide behind posse comitatus, support the administration, stage a coup, I can see any of the above, maybe every base different, and what of the guard and reserves, they are closer to the people, does that matter.

      I’m the same way, do we have commo like the internet, if it’s turned off is that the signal? Questions, Questions, and there may be little time.


  12. BTW, linked in my left sidebar. I hope many, many people read this.


    • NEO says:

      Thank you. I do as well, and Dean commented to another commenter on his that he wasn’t even worried about credit on this one.


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