German Arms to Kurdistan

Deutsch: Dr. Angela Merkel Bundeskanzlerin der...

Deutsch: Dr. Angela Merkel Bundeskanzlerin der Bundesrepublik Deutschland Vorsitzende der CDU Deutschlands (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The Germans have decided to help the Kurds out, with some weapons resupply. I’ll say this, when Frau Dr. Merkel resupplies you, she sends some nice (albeit for Germany perhaps obsolete) stuff. She’s also sending enough to be worthwhile.

Arguing that fighting extremism in Iraq is defending Germany as far forward as possible, Chancellor Angela Merkel called for the provision of the weapons, not in lieu of diplomacy — “No conflict can be solved solely militarily,” she said — but because without a strengthening of the friendlies’ military situation, there will be no diplomatic option. Thst occasioned by the collapse of the Iraqi state and the growth of ISIL threatens the stability of Europe — and Germany — too. German military forces, which once staffed a Provincial Reconstruction Team and some specialist elements in Afghanistan, have long since come home, but Germany can send both obsolete and modern weapons — and is doing so. The German parliament, the Bundestag, has approved the initiative.

The first tranche of supplies, already on the way, includes 4,000 obsolete G3 rifles and a million rounds of 7.62mm ammunition. The list of the supplies made available by Germany includes:

  1. 8,000 obsolete G3 7.62mm rifles
  2. 8,000 current G36 5.56mm rifles with optics
  3. 40 obsolete MG3 (aka MG42) 7.62mm machine guns.
  4. 200 Panzerfaust 3 anti-tank recoilless weapons aiming units, with 2500 reloads (self-contained launcher tube with warhead, rocket, and countermass).
  5. 40 “heavy Panzerfausts”  (possibly MATADORs).
  6. 30 MILAN ATGM launchers with 500 rockets.
  7. 8,000 obsolete P1 (Walther P.38) pistols.
  8. 10,000 hand grenades.

German Arms to Kurdistan | WeaponsMan.

G3 Rifles are about as good as what Americans call battle rifles get, I think the M-14 might be better but I’m not exactly unbiased either. MG3/MG42’s? Ask any American infantryman from World War II about them. We made training films about them.

And yes as somebody said there are about 150 Germans fighting in ISIS, along with the Brits, the Americans and all. One of the commenters at Weapons Man sums up my reaction, and I suspect plenty of others

TheSpartanMonkeySeptember 4, 2014 at 15:11
“As many as 400 nominally-German Moslems have traveled to the region to join ISIL.”

Well, let’s hope all the ISIL wanna-bes head over from here, the UK and everwhere else to consolidate in one kill box.


Merci beaucoup, suckers


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7 Responses to German Arms to Kurdistan

  1. the unit says:

    An old fellow I know has bought a burial insurance policy and would like to sell his Chinese SKS rifle to help pay the premium. Is it obsolete? I think it’s 7.62×39. Is that right you think? I google and see 7.62×51 and 54r. If the 39 is obsolete maybe not so good. Huh?
    All I’ve ever had is .22, 410, 20, and 12, so don’t know anything about these other numbers.


    • NEO says:

      Nothing wrong with 7.62X39. It’s sometimes called 7.62 Russian, its the original chambering for the AK. It’s slightly less powerful, I assume, than 7.62X 51/ 7.62 NATO/ .308 Winchester but its the Warsaw pact equivalent.

      The only reason any of them are obsolete is because everybody has gone to stuff like 5.56 NATO or .223 Remington.

      A lot of my friends call the .30 caliber ones ‘Battle Rifles’ and the .22s ‘assault rifles’. Lighter, handier to carry, nice weapons but they don’t have the power of the 30s.

      That said, I know almost nothing of the Chinese SKS’s except that there’s a lot of them about. Probably a decent weapon.


    • NEO says:

      Add on. In my opinion, nothing in the major calibers from the wars of the 20th century is obsolete, in real terms. the term often means that the various militaries aren’t using it any more. If it fits your application, there are few better weapons than a ’03 Springfield and it’s 30-06 cartridge, and it was nearly obsolete in 1941.


      • the unit says:

        Thanks for info. I’d forgot about old rifle my great uncle gave me years ago. It is some Springfield model, 30-40 Krag. Have just shot it just a few times, probably have only half dozen cartridges remaining from box of 20 I bought fifty years ago. Someone carved 1899 in the stock back then. It’s like five shot bolt action. Reminds me of Sgt. York rifle. Gobble, gobble, gobble. 🙂

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        • NEO says:

          No problem, but I’m working from memory, and so am not overly reliable.

          I suspect you can still get 30-40 Krag, and yep, it was a good gun. I’d check it fairly carefully before I shot it though, it’s decidedly an old-timer, even by my antique scale. But it do turkeys just fine- [gobble-gobble, yourself] or two legged varmints, for that matter. 🙂


        • the unit says:

          Yep safety first. The Biden Principle you know. 🙂


        • NEO says:

          Yep! 😉


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