A Question in the Comments

copts-attacked1On Jessica’s post Where is Comfort, the Unit asked Jessica in comments a question.

Golly gee Ms. Hof. Thanks for comment. I wonder if you could maybe post here as to a question I still have? One of the last things Momma said to me is “the righteous suffer with the unrighteous.” I spare you (well spare myself) the details as many suffer. But her circumstance didn’t let me delve into what she knew Biblically on that.

That was 2006, she 91…me now in seventies. Thank you so much. the unit

Jess got sick before she answered it, and I think it deserves an answer. She’s far better qualified but I’ll take a shot at it.

St. Peter tells us in I Peter 3:18 that

For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

Which is, of course, fairly obvious, or at least we hope so, since we are all sinners, and hence unjust, and need His grace to save us.

But you and I know that sometimes it seems that we who try to do the right thing feel like we are almost oppressed in our society doesn’t it. I, like you see all the stories about Christianity being driven from public life, and all the rest, and in truth sometimes even it seems like those we love and are in the faith hurt us. And we get sick, and we suffer, even in fact as Jess herself has, and those that love her have, and it just doesn’t seem right, does it?

In many ways, I suspect a lot of it, is simply that our culture has led us to believe that we should be happy, in this life. Sometimes we are; but that’s not what Jesus promised was it? He promised that we would be persecuted in this life, and would find our happiness in the next.

But Ezekiel 21 tells us this:

And the word of the Lord came to me, saying, “Son of man, set your face toward Jerusalem, preach against the holy places, and prophesy against the land of Israel; and say to the land of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord: “Behold, I I Am against you, and I will draw My sword out of its sheath and cut off both righteous and wicked from you.Because I will cut off both righteous and wicked from you, therefore My sword shall go out of its sheath against all flesh from south to north,

And that is a pretty dire prophecy, I would say. Dr. John Oakes tells us here, however

When God brings physical judgment on a nation, both the godly and the

ungodly will suffer. This may seem unfair upon first consideration, but
when God judges a nation, as he surely has a right to do, the suffering of
both the good and the evil is inevitable. However, the righteous may
suffer physically, but they will not lose their place in heaven if their
heart is devoted to God. This is a general law of human existence. God
causes the rain to fall on the good and the evil. Some of the blessings of
God will fall on those who do not even acknowledge him. Sometimes, even
good people are caused to suffer because of the sins of others, but in the
end, God will reward them for their righteous life. God does not promise a
care-free life to those who turn to him.

And so it seems like in many ways, if you are righteous, you will suffer along with the unrighteous, in this world. Calamities happen to us all, just as we all get the spring rain, we also get the tornado. We are seeing plenty of that recently aren’t we, what with the Copts and the Iraqi Christians, two of the oldest of Christian communities, going back to the time of the Apostles themselves.

But, at the last we are judged individually, and that is where our reward is. In the next world, not this one. And we have to trust Him, who told us in Mathew 11:30

For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

And the key here is that a yoke is used on at least two oxen, it is surely placed on us, but the other side is placed on Christ Himself, who helps us by sharing our burden.

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14 Responses to A Question in the Comments

  1. illero says:

    I think, though, that something that is not emphasized enough is that our reward for loving God is not just a post-death reward. I believe that there is no better, more rewarding, or “happier” life on earth than to be trying to live the life of faith. Pains come and go, but the life of faith is full of beauty both now and for eternity.

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    • NEO says:

      I, too, think that it true. Many however will mistake it for “prosperity gospel’.

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  2. the unit says:

    Thank you for such an effective explanation leading to my understanding. And you did so in the month of my mother’s birth and the year she would have been 100 years old. I know she could have explained it as well, but was too ill for me to delve into it at the time.
    Just a short explanation as to how it even came up. She lived a life as described by illero above. She had stated that Katrina had swept away the gambling casinos from the Gulf Coast. I asked but why also your home, belongings, and church, and, I think, these happenings contributed to her stroke about a week or 10 days later. She lived another 9 months, but because of her condition communication was difficult.
    Thanks again for your apt answer. And illero’s comment is so true, as that was her life.

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    • NEO says:

      You’re very welcome. I try, although it is not exactly my field.

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      • the unit says:

        I had to take a short break as a few “Boehner’s” came to my eyes while reminiscing.

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        • NEO says:

          I understand, it happens to me as well.

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  3. Indeed what is coming on earth during the future ‘Great Tribulation’ (Matt. 24: 21-22 / 2 Thess.2 / Rev.1-3 ; 1: 19) is surely dire to say the least! And sadly many professing christians, and certainly many in the historical churches (now involved in the great Gentile Apostasy) will be front and centre! (See, Matt. 25: 1-13, noting too, Luke 18: 7-8) YES , we are living in the last three Churches of Revelation chap. 3 “Sardis, Philadelphia & Laodicea”!

    This is of course not popular teaching today, but what if it is the truth? I.e. a futuristic reading of the Eschatological, and especially the Book of Revelation/Apocalypse! (Note, I am myself Post-tribulational)

    Btw, “Unit’s” mum, sounded like she was a “Philadelphia” Christian! As I feel too of me great-gram! 🙂

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    • NEO says:

      Reminded me of Kate Hepburn in those John Wayne movies, as well. A great lady. 🙂

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  4. the unit says:

    I hope this will be up for awhile as I want to make a paper copy and of comments. Unable to do so right now.

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    • NEO says:

      It’ll stay at least till morning Unit. The it’ll still be here, just not on the front page. If it gives you trouble, let me know, and I’ll figure out something.

      And thank you, that may be the best compliment I’ve ever had.

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      • the unit says:

        I got it. Daughter came in, she can do things on computer I can’t. Page on internet explorer would not send to printer, but she went someplace else and it did. Got my copy and one for former workplace friend whose going through the trials and tribulations. Grandma raising grandchildren. I think it will help.
        Thanks NEO and hope Jessica is well. I didn’t know at the time she was ill.

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        • NEO says:

          Good deal.

          At the time she wasn’t. It happened a few days later, and she’s recovering. We try, Unit. Hope we do some good.

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        • the unit says:

          Done done.

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        • NEO says:

          🙂

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