To Understand France’s Jihadis, Look At Where They Came From

English: Regions of Belgium

English: Regions of Belgium (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

This, from Dan Hannan, is very interesting, I think. I haven’t much to add, particularly since I don’t really know much about continental Europe. So, I’ll let him tell it.


I think it has to do with the way that patriotism has been derided and traduced by Europe’s intellectual elites. If you want newcomers to assimilate into your society, you have to give them something into which to assimilate. You have to project a sense of pride, of common purpose, of self-belief.

This is perhaps especially difficult in Belgium. There is no Belgian language, no Belgian culture, precious little Belgian history. The country is divided between French and Dutch-speakers and subsists, as the saying goes, only in its monarchy and its football team.

The last Belgian election was won by a party that favors Flemish self-rule, and French and Dutch-speaking populations are, in consequence, identifying less with the national institutions, more with their own communities. But where does this leave, say, a Moroccan-origin boy from Molenbeek? What is there for him to be join?

Think of the experience that boy will have had in his adolescence. His every interaction with the Belgian state will have taught him to despise it. If he got any history at all in school, it will have been presented to him as a hateful chronicle of racism and exploitation. When he hears politicians on TV, they are unthinkingly blaming every ill in the world on Western meddling. It’s hardly an inducement to integrate, is it?

Americans are very good at assimilating newcomers. They go in for loud displays of national pride – flags in the yard and bunting on Independence Day and stirring songs – that strike some Euro-snobs as vulgar, but that make it easy for settlers to want to belong. [,,,]

Source: To Understand France’s Jihadis, Look At Where They Came From | PA Pundits – International

The thing is, what exactly do Europeans believe in? They seemingly are no longer Christian, they don’t believe in their countries, they surely don’t believe in Europe. they don’t even believe in reproducing themselves. Life really is more than football.

And how many times have we said, Nothing will fall for anything!

As it is now constituted, I think Europe is doomed, and perhaps yeats saw clearly


Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.

The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?




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12 Responses to To Understand France’s Jihadis, Look At Where They Came From

  1. Doug Lafuze says:

    Is America really far behind Europe? We are a nation founded on Christian ideals WITH the right to practice whatever religion you want without persecution, yet God is driven from sight by political correctness and heaven forbid you say Merry Christmas! Patriotism is being shoved from schools and our lives as well. History classes dwell more on Kennedy and Monroe than Valley Forge and Normandy. Most kids can’t even recite the Pledge of Allegiance and look at where our youths are already headed. Violence and discontent are already rampant in the up and coming generations. They have nothing to believe in, nothing to be proud of. It’s my opinion the only reason we retain any of our original identity is because of the older generations who were taught to and wanted to love this great country, and as they slowly die off, so will America. .

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    • NEO says:

      I don’t really disagree. i would posit that it is OUR duty to pass the flame on, not to delegate it to the schools, which are an old Prussian model design to instill obedience, not ration thinking or the love of God.

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      • Doug Lafuze says:

        I agree totally and I do my best to pass it on to my kids all the time. Unfortunately most of our nation’s isn’t

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        • NEO says:

          I know, and figured you did. I’d guess that we’re about 20 years or so behind Europe, but we’re slipping, I fear.

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      • Doug Lafuze says:

        Nation’s youth isn’t as lucky. Hit the send button too early by mistake! 😨

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  2. Agree, but of course I am coming from a life in Ireland and England (though living now in the USA), the British have lost their reality in the good old biblical literacy! (KJV) Though there are some, now a remnant, of true Bible Believers in Britain.

    Btw, W.B. Yeats was more of a mystic than a biblicist Christian, though he did know, or at least read the Holy Scripture. But, as W. H. Auden criticized this mystic aspect of Yeats’s work; Auden called it the “deplorable spectacle of a grown man occupied with the mumbo-jumbo of magic and the nonsense of India.” Yeats was a member of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, and he read the writings of Emanuel Swedenborg and William Blake. But Yeats was an Irish Senator in later years. And his poetry is always worth the read!


    • And too, I am not so sure that America is 20 years behind Britain? America is going fast I fear, the biblical illiteracy is a foot, profoundly! Being a part-time hospital chaplain here I am quite amazed at loss of belief in the Bible, even with so-called Christians! Surely we are living in the days of Western Apostasy!


      • Btw too, I can’t help but wonder if Yeats was affected by Swedenberg’s belief in the Second Coming of Christ, when he wrote his poem here? Of course Swedenberg’s followers organized themselves (after Swedenberg’s death) as the New Jerusalem Church, which believed in the literal Second Coming of Christ, as certain and SOON! Though Swedenberg did NOT believe in the Trinity nor in the vicarious atonement!

        *There are even still a few Swedenbergians in the UK, and in America!


  3. And continental Europe is no more less Christian than many so-called Historical Church’s in America! That’s my opinion, and I have been here for well over five years in America, though of course I am a classic conservative Anglican (Anglo-Irish, noting the basic aspect of The Irish Articles, 1615, with Archbishop James Ussher. Though I am too a classic Historic Pre-Mill) Thirty Nine Articles and a Neo-Calvinist. But the liberalism of America is now central and main-stream!


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  5. I do not believe that Europe is doomed.

    On the one hand, if you look at what is happening today, the trajectory of events certainly suggests a path towards increasing secularization, thereby leaving a widening gap to the mass Muslim overtake of a former Christian continent.

    But God is pretty smart, and He seems to sometimes let things take a certain troublesome course before thwarting them to a better measure – and always for a greater good.

    Europe is not doomed. Europe is simply on an unknown, unrecognized course to one day change the face of the world, and the Church. It is not an easy course, and it will lead to great suffering and bloodshed, and many will die along the way. But I think God is using the Muslims to “clear house” so to speak, and I trust in prophecy that all this is for a greater good.

    I think if we watch from the right vantage point, we will see that the times that we live in are great. They are wretched, but they have a place in the plans of time, as ruled by God. If we trust in that, we can rise above the fray, and see with higher eyes. And how many prophets over the course of two millenia have left us these “eyes?”

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  6. Again, to my mind both Europe and America have crossed the line, and face the reality of God’s creational judgment! If one cannot see this in the history of National Israel, then they are NOT reading their Bible! Sadly but surely we are staring – but rigid and stiff – into the doom! (Without God!) The Judeo-Christian ethic, which comes from the Judeo-Christian God, is almost void in the Western culture today! Lord have mercy!


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