What Muslims think: and why do we care

This is definitely worth reading, and thinking about. So much of opinion is driven by polling (or is it, really, maybe polling is driven by something else as well). In any case, this highlights how easy it is to draw false conclusions from polling, especially when viewing filtered results.

Do you have sympathy with young Muslims who leave the UK to join fighters in Syria? It’s a hard question to answer: perhaps you’d wonder who the ‘fighters’ were. Or whether the ‘young Muslims’ were 14-year-old girls, groomed by fanatics to be jihadi brides. But if you answer ‘yes’, you may be surprised to find yourself described as having ‘sympathy for jihadis’. Such are the perils awaiting British Muslims who respond to opinion poll questions.

The Sun this week found itself in a row about a front-page headline: 1 IN 5 BRIT MUSLIMS’ SYMPATHY FOR JIHADIS. The poll, by Survation, had asked a rather different question: what level of ‘sympathy’ the respondents had ‘with young Muslims who leave the UK to join fighters in Syria’. A small proportion — 5 per cent — had ‘a lot of sympathy’, and 15 per cent had ‘some sympathy’. But sympathy lay with the young Brits, not the Isis jihadis — and there is a difference.

It’s the latest of many polls since 9/11 which ask Muslims if they have sympathy for the devil. Typically, these polls declare that a significant minority does. Even if just 5 per cent are found to entertain crazy ideas, it’s then argued, that amounts to 130,000 people. But what is seldom asked is: what about the non-Muslims? Given that you’ll find a significant minority agreeing with any crazy proposition — Elvis still being alive, light sabers being real — how much weight should we attach to the polls which purport to identify embryonic British jihadism? […]

Not so very long ago, Muslims were being left alone and Catholics were being asked whether they had sympathy with IRA attacks. Even in day-to-day politics, those with religious convictions are always interrogated about whether their faith clouds their judgment, while those with secular stances whose judgment may prove equally unsound are left alone. […]

If you torture the data for long enough, you can show anything. Any poll of any group in Britain will always find a small minority supporting the bizarre or the deplorable — that doesn’t make the whole group gullible, or crazy. And it certainly doesn’t mean that the average British Muslim harbours any sympathy for the Islamic State.

Source: What Muslims think » The Spectator

If you remember, it was Mark Twain you commented that “Figures don’t lie, but liars can figure”. Sometimes the lies are innocent and inadvertent, but sometimes they aren’t. And even innocent lies are not the truth, and we shouldn’t be navigating ships of state by them. I don’t know how British Moslems feel about IS, and they don’t either. Every one of us has a plethora of feelings and they vary from hour to hour depending on what we just watched, read, or happened in the world.

The answer for us, and for our countries as well, is to do what we think is right, and just, without regards to polls. We have the same right to exist, prosper, and be happy as anyone else, so there is no need to defer to lowlifes as ISIS. We deserve to live our lives in peace, and that is the first obligation of our governments, along with guaranteeing our freedom. It’s a hard job, but hey, they volunteered. And we’re paying them pretty well, too.


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8 Responses to What Muslims think: and why do we care

  1. the unit says:

    NEO interviewing a CongressCritter…
    NEO: It’s a hard job, but hey, you volunteered. And we’re paying you pretty well, too.
    CongressCritter: It is hard. Keeping up and taking advantage with the insider trading is hard, but makes it all worthwhile.

    The three girl pic. The middle one could pass for O with a headscarf. Mom’s jeans and a head scarf to boot. Not a poll question. 🙂


  2. Indeed the West must ask itself: How did we get here? And the obvious answer is the Roman Empire, and Judeo-Christianity! And for us Irish, it is Saints, Scholars and Kings, and the Celts are a branch of the Indo-European family from which most of the present-day European, Middle Eastern and Indian races are descended. Their forebears probably lived on the plains of western Russia, the region of the Volga steppes. And all of this predates Islam!


  3. It is such a sad mess. While I can understand that some Muslims might not sympathize with jihadis in their extremest measures, the problem is that it is fundamental to the Muslim faith to seek out the practice of Sharia law. I have witnessed this first hand in getting to know Muslims, and I have heard their explanations of how they are a people of peace, and not the monsters the media makes them out to be. Nonetheless, I have also heard them turn around and clearly state that if you offend them or your faith, you should be punished under their laws.

    Their idea of peace is very different from ours. From what I have seen, a world under Sharia law would be a peaceful place to them. The problem is, can we accept the abuse of other humans in the name of their God? Do we want to be subject to their laws if a dispute should arise between us and them personally? They would want us to be, and to them, that would be peaceful.

    I think we walk such a fine line here. On the one hand, they are human beings, who we must love. On the other, they are holding onto a belief system that is calculated to eventually destroy our own, and establish their religious reign. Sadly, this is the paradox that is so difficult in our world. Do we take the liberal approach, whereby we act kind to them but do not seek to also set limits and borders to their initiatives? Do we take the opposite extreme approach, whereby we retaliate by hating them all and being inhumanly cruel?

    There are no easy answers to such complex questions. Sadly, prophecy is clear that eventually the continuing actions of Muslims will lead to an international war that will cause much loss of life and bloodshed. I feel as though I am living in a twililight zone, as the news unfolds what was once mere written words on a prophetic page of history.

    I think that all we can do is strive for a balance, whereby we love them and pray for them in our personal lives, but find a way to charitably stand strong in our defenses against their errors. As for the greater arena of the international political spheres, I am just glad I am not in the shoes of those who have to make such fateful decisions. Yet in the end I am not unfamiliar with tough love, and if pushed enough, I can see where it may – very sadly – have to come to that. But who will we blame? The Muslims, or our world that has become so cold that it drives disillusioned young people to extremist motives?

    I know this is a bit off topic at this point, but your post gave me a lot to think about. 🙂

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    • NEO says:

      This is outstanding, and expresses what I think so strongly and clearly that it is uncanny.,

      That is the fence we straddle, isn’t? Duty calls both ways, but we can’t go both ways. Perhaps all we can do, is to evangelize tham as best we can, and then defend our families and out faith, as best we can. Or maybe there is a better answer, that I don’t see.

      Thanks so much, Isabella.

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      • You are welcome NEO 🙂 Wow, that is really cool that you share the same thoughts. I think that it is so complex a situation because it is a struggle that plays out in so many aspects of our lives – the situation with the Muslims just intensifies it and brings it to heightened levels.

        It is the same struggle that we even deal with in the Church today; how to handle truth with love and not turn into a bunch of wishy-washes or a crazy, over-aggressive stickler. I think that is why this situation with the Muslims interests me so much, because when the restoration of the Catholic Church comes out of it, there will be leaders and rulers who will no longer go to unbalanced extremes, but will rather have that perfect balance. I think the Church will be more charitable and beautiful, but yet more firm and strong in a way that is more akin to a loving father than a relative stranger with the title “father.”

        Right now, the Church tends to have many leaders who go either way, but never balance out. This is reflected in those in the pews as well I think, given the radical divisions between liberals and conservatives these days. I cannot wait for it to all be fixed, and see how beautiful the Church can be. The Muslim situation is a huge part of bringing that to be. All we can do is pray for light, and let God take His course. I have hopes though. 🙂

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        • NEO says:

          Yep, I agree with that as well! 🙂

          Check out today’s post, it’s based on your comment.

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        • Ok, on my way! 🙂

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