Seriously but not Literally

america-vs-englandI again quoted whoever it was that said we take Donald Trump seriously but not literally again last evening. It is true, we do, we voted for him because he looks to us like a real outsider, who is his own man, not an owned man of the progs. It was exactly the same impulse that led to Brexit, I, and many other Americans and Britons think. Here’s more about that impulse and the repercussions, from a British blog, that I found through still another British blog: The Conservative Woman, which has become one of my favorites. Here’s some of what Herbert has to say:

In 2016, after the best part of five decades spent infiltrating our media, our universities, and our pop culture, the radical feminists, racial minorities who see race as their identity, LBGT types, statists, and haters of national pride and free market economics, came out of the shadows in a final act of revolution, confident that the world was theirs for the taking, and it all came to nothing.

Hillary Clinton, the archetypal feminist, was denied the most powerful position in the world, from where she would have wreaked untold havoc on the most basic values that America and the developed world stand for. And we Britons took back control of our national sovereignty from the creeping socialism and the Soros-funded open society, open-borders mentality of the EU.

This was a massive shock to the progressive left, of course, as witness the parade of their weak-minded, slogan chanting, under-achieving, envy-driven, really rather stupid professional grievance-collecting, entitlement-ridden, acolytes, who emitted what amounted to a shriek of anger that their well-laid plans had been foiled by democracy.

The reaction of this rag-bag army of misfits and malcontents finally showed the new left’s true colours to the world. They demonstrated publicly that all they had to offer was slogans: ‘racist’, ‘sexist’, ‘homophobe’, ‘fascist’ – and, of course, ‘climate change denier’ whenever that part of their plan could be slipped into the equation.

During the 2016 US Presidential campaign and the Brexit referendum in the UK, the progressive left threw everything at victory through the arrogant media, the self-satisfied celebrities, and the pc professors – the so-called experts – who came out of the woodwork, confident that they would swing us all to their all-pervading progressive worldview, and that we would submit.  We didn’t. In 2016, in the UK and the US, the silent majority of ordinary people thumbed their noses at all of them.

This was the real revolution – a revolution of common sense and decency – of values and freedom. It amounted to a rejection of identity politics, grievance cultures, climate change hysteria, alleged experts telling people what is right and wrong, politicians trying to take moral authority over the people who elect them levelling accusations that they were racist when all people wanted was to preserve their hard-won culture, and protect it from being swamped by alien cultures intent on hegemony.

Do read the whole thing at 2016: The year the worm finally turned |

He’s right, it is a real revolution, in the same sense that the American Revolution was. It is an effort to restore, to complete the revolution, if you will, to stand things back in their proper place.

Brexit is and was an imperfect tool for this, but it seemed and seems to be fit for purpose, to divide the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. Similarly, Donald Trump is not, and was not a perfect candidate, many of us had reservations, and we may be clinging to a frail reed in his cabinet picks. We will see. But then, neither was Stephan Langton, or the barons a very good choice for the freedom of the common man, but they gave us the first of those charters that have marked our history: Magna Charta.

What is not in doubt is that after still another four or eight years of Hillary Clinton as President, it was going to be very unlikely to put this right, and so it was time to act. This was not a communal, collective act, this was a decision reached quietly, inwardly by millions of Americans, as was the Brexit choice in Britain, and for very similar reasons.

There is a reason why the Anglo-Saxon countries have a thousand year long history of increasing freedom, no matter the opposition. Kipling, as always stated it well.

“My son,” said the Norman Baron, “I am dying, and you will be heir
To all the broad acres in England that William gave me for share
When he conquered the Saxon at Hastings, and a nice little handful it is.
But before you go over to rule it I want you to understand this:–

“The Saxon is not like us Normans. His manners are not so polite.
But he never means anything serious till he talks about justice and right.
When he stands like an ox in the furrow – with his sullen set eyes on your own,
And grumbles, ‘This isn’t fair dealing,’ my son, leave the Saxon alone.

“You can horsewhip your Gascony archers, or torture your Picardy spears;
But don’t try that game on the Saxon; you’ll have the whole brood round your ears.
From the richest old Thane in the county to the poorest chained serf in the field,
They’ll be at you and on you like hornets, and, if you are wise, you will yield.

“But first you must master their language, their dialect, proverbs and songs.
Don’t trust any clerk to interpret when they come with the tale of their wrongs.
Let them know that you know what they’re saying; let them feel that you know what to say.
Yes, even when you want to go hunting, hear ’em out if it takes you all day.

They’ll drink every hour of the daylight and poach every hour of the dark.
It’s the sport not the rabbits they’re after (we’ve plenty of game in the park).
Don’t hang them or cut off their fingers. That’s wasteful as well as unkind,
For a hard-bitten, South-country poacher makes the best man- at-arms you can find.

“Appear with your wife and the children at their weddings and funerals and feasts.
Be polite but not friendly to Bishops; be good to all poor parish priests.
Say ‘we,’ ‘us’ and ‘ours’ when you’re talking, instead of ‘you fellows’ and ‘I.’
Don’t ride over seeds; keep your temper; and never you tell ’em a lie!”

Hopefully, it works, at least temporarily, but if it doesn’t, there is a further leavening in the Anglo-Saxons. It has come down to us known as:

The furor of the Northmen

I don’t think anybody really wants to go there, but we did back in 1688, and in 1776, and once more in 1861. It wasn’t pretty, but as always:



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24 Responses to Seriously but not Literally

  1. fuzzysdad01 says:

    Reblogged this on Give Me Liberty.


  2. Let’s hope we are seeing something of a “revolution” with both Americans and Brit’s, but it really must go beyond just the political! For me the true moral vote is still out? Postmodernity, Deconstruction, etc. still are central for today!


  3. Jan Hanssen says:

    How is Trump an outsider and independent? He frequently claimed he was the “King of Debt”. Someone is deep debt is by the very definition, an “owned man”?

    What was gained in Brexit?

    Lastly, I have seen you reference Anglo-Saxons a few times now. Do you identify as an Anglo-Saxon?


    • NEO says:

      Can it, Jan. This is not a free study group for you guys, I’ve wasted most of a week going over ground that anyone who knows English/American history or society knows, I’m done.

      If you have something useful to add, fine, I welcome it. But you’re becoming indistinguishable from simply another troll, and I don’t play that game.

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      • Jan Hanssen says:

        David, the point is to try to understand why a certain segment of American society thinks the way it does, and you fit the profile of someone we are looking for. If you cannot answer the questions or you would prefer to answer them somewhere less public we could do that too.

        We all understand American, British, European, and world history fairly well, to include economics and political silence. The problem is that there are contradictions between what a lot of America says it wants, what Trump is offering, and everything in between. We are trying to understand those contradictions based on a real life example in you. If the contradictions are uncomfortable that might be part of the issue we need to understand the most.

        For example, the idea that you can take Trump seriously but not care what he says, is somewhat absurd. He supports things you openly claim to oppose, but you still support him, even champion him, and we do not understand this. He just admitted that he wants to build a wall, still, but that Americans will pay for it, to be reimbursed somehow in the future. This is a real problem for a nation with a significant national debt. How can you explain this?

        Part of the problem is that we do understand history, and this has all of the makings of a disaster. And as horrible as it could be, we are also watching it real time. Your demographic seems like it will be hurt the most, but you still support Trump, so of course we want to know why.


        • NEO says:

          No, y0u don’t. To start with you have no idea of American politics, and you’re so busy asking questions that you don’t take the time to read and think about the answers. Unplug your keyboard for the weekend and simply think through all that has been said here this week, maybe you’ll learn something, although I doubt it.


        • Btw NEO, I am in most basic agreement with you about our friend Jan, though you know him much better than I. But he does appear to be something of another intellectual European type, that has little practical or hands on experience with America and Americans? The latter especially! But again, I don’t know him personally, so this is just an ideological and on-line judgment by myself. But I am myself a Brit, and something of a conservative for sure, and close to the American Constitution! 🙂

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        • NEO says:

          That is the conclusion I came to Fr Robert. He’s a good guy, but he has both the European intellectualism and the arrogance that often accompanies it. He needs to read and think about what I write, not simply quibble about miscellaneous details. Not that I don’t do the same, sometimes. 😉


        • NEO: Yes agree! And we all have our ideological preferences, but of course the conservative model is the best! 😉 Keep at it! The time is surely most profound and even perilous, of course in my opinion.

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        • NEO says:

          Agreed. 🙂


        • And surely this time of anti-Americanism, and also anti-Brexit vote is very real! It is a sad state of affairs, no doubt helped by almost 8 years of Obama’s administration, and America’s so-called leading from behind. Which of course has been little to no real leadership!

          *And just speaking for myself, but I would surely see myself as something of an Anglo-Saxon, I am an Scots-Irish old-toehead, though I have greyed up, gracefully I hope? lol And make no mistake Ireland came from the pagan Celts, and a handful of scholarly Christian missionaries, successors to hermits who had fled the corruption of Rome, but with the Celts welcomed the Greco-Roman classical tradition, and the flame of Irish scholarship was born! In reality the Roman Empire and culture has so affected the West! But now there is a new attack afoot from the East! History and ideological yet once again! And we cannot lose this battle, or we lose ourselves!

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        • NEO says:

          Concur, thoroughly and completely.


        • The USA and the British are closer than people realize, especially the people today, who are simply not educated in the old Western and European fashion, but of course I am an old baby-boomer myself, and of course too have some bias. But I consider that a good bias! 🙂

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        • NEO says:

          We really are, especially on the conservative side. I probably spend more time these day on British blogs than American. Same problems, same solutions, different acronyms. Cousins, indeed. I don’t really consider the British as Europeans as all, they’re us, and the Canucks, and Aussies, and the Kiwis, all the same, but slightly different. I share that bias, of course, and your evaluation of it. 🙂


        • I will end my wee piece here with this, the movie ‘The Longest Day’. Which I saw again just the other day, God Bless that generation of men and people! Of which were men like my father, flying a “Spit” that day, and some of my uncles and great uncles, one of which landed at Juno Beach. May their memory, and the memory of that day for freedom ring long and loud! Thanks NEO!

          ‘The Longest Day is a 1962 epic war film based on Cornelius Ryan’s book The Longest Day (1959), about the D-Day landings at Normandy on June 6, 1944, during World War II. The film was produced by Darryl F. Zanuck, who paid author Ryan $175,000 for the film rights.[3] The screenplay was by Ryan, with additional material written by Romain Gary, James Jones, David Pursall and Jack Seddon. It was directed by Ken Annakin (British and French exteriors), Andrew Marton (American exteriors), and Bernhard Wicki (German scenes).

          The Longest Day, which was made in black and white, features a large ensemble cast including John Wayne, Kenneth More, Richard Todd, Robert Mitchum, Richard Burton, Steve Forrest, Sean Connery, Henry Fonda, Red Buttons, Peter Lawford, Eddie Albert, Jeffrey Hunter, Stuart Whitman, Tom Tryon, Rod Steiger, Leo Genn, Gert Fröbe, Irina Demick, Bourvil, Curt Jürgens, George Segal, Robert Wagner, Paul Anka and Arletty. Many of these actors played roles that were essentially cameo appearances. In addition, several cast members – including Fonda, Genn, More, Steiger and Todd – saw action as servicemen during the war, with Todd actually being among the first British officers to land in Normandy in Operation Overlord and he in fact participated in the assault on Pegasus Bridge.

          The film employed several Axis and Allied military consultants who had been actual participants on D-Day. Many had their roles re-enacted in the film. These included: Günther Blumentritt (a former German general), James M. Gavin (an American general), Frederick Morgan (Deputy Chief of Staff at SHAEF), John Howard (who led the airborne assault on the Pegasus Bridge), Lord Lovat (who commanded the 1st Special Service Brigade), Philippe Kieffer (who led his men in the assault on Ouistreham), Pierre Koenig (who commanded the Free French Forces in the invasion), Max Pemsel (a German general), Werner Pluskat (the major who was the first German officer to see the invasion fleet), Josef “Pips” Priller (the hot-headed pilot) and Lucie Rommel (widow of Field Marshal Erwin Rommel).

          A colorized version of this film was released on VHS in 1994, the 50th anniversary of the invasion.’ (Wiki)

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        • NEO says:

          And just to add, the other day I watched my favorite (well, one of them), 12 O’clock High starring Gregory Peck, as the build up of the 8th USAAF started and the whole concept hung in doubt. Much heroism there, and many leadership lessons as well, particularly about how the mission is the most important. I also note that the authors of both the book and the screenplay were 8th AAF veterans, and the combat footage is real, real combat gun camera footage.

          Indeed what men they all were, and the few left, still are.


        • NEO: I have seen that movie too, perhaps THE best American movie about the cost and mission of the American Army Bomber crews over Europe in WW II! Made I believe in 1949, the year I was born? Yes, God Bless the souls of all of those men who served in that mission, especially those lost from the skies! I read somewhere that it was over 55,000 American Airman? Indeed what a breed! (RIP)

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        • NEO says:

          In that neighborhood anyway. There was a TV show that came out of the movie, it was my favorite show, ever in high school.

          I think it was, and yes, I like The Longest Day, as well.


  4. the unit says:

    I understand myself. Just trying ” to stand things back in their proper place.” Trying to set things aright. “We have a given problem to solve. If we undertake the solution, there is, of course, always danger that we may not solve it aright; but to refuse to undertake the solution simply renders it certain that we cannot possibly solve it aright.” – Teddy Roosevelt.
    Aright? Like the court justice asked for a definition of pornography, I’ll know aright when I see it. 🙂

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    • NEO says:

      Bingo, doesn’t seem all that complex to me! 🙂

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  5. the unit says:

    So to sum it up, The Donald is lekker, seriously if not literally. 🙂

    Liked by 1 person

    • Indeed lets lighten-up and talk about the “lekker” of Dutch women, over 21 of course! 🙂

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      • I’m talking about their beauty of course! Thank God He made women, though Eve got the best of Adam! 🙂


        • NEO says:

          Indeed,she did!


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