Police State Britain

Someplace back about two lifetimes ago, I read a book by Len Deighton, well actually more than one. But the one that jolted into my mind yesterday morning was “SS-GB”. It is historical fiction about the German occupation of Great Britain in 1941. It was a pretty dark novel, but a very good one. But it is what we call a counterfactual, something that could have happened, but didn’t.

Or did it?

The other day, Tommy Robinson was arrested for a public order offense, as near as I can tell for filming a bit too near to a courthouse, which was also possibly what an American would call a parole violation. Yes, he has been known to get into a bit of trouble for his views, more on that later. In any case, he was arrested, tried, convicted, and on his way to prison (with a 13-month sentence) within an hour. Not sure I think that’s exactly justice, but it’s damned well speedy.

Information is thin on this because the judge also issued a gag order on British writers, preventing them from writing/talking about the case. Leading to the following Tweets between a couple of quite influential Christian bloggers in Britain.

And that is quite frankly a chickenshit move by the judge, even if countenanced by the law. It’s not uncommon in Britain these days, especially where Muslim/ Islamists are concerned. And this trial was one of the Muslim ‘grooming’ gangs. It has gotten to the point where telling the truth is defined as a hate crime. Freedom of speech is mostly a memory for the cousins.

We, of course, revere the words, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” That is our First Amendment, and we guard it jealously. We do so so that travesties like this don’t happen here. But that is only in the United States, think about that: ONLY in the United States.

It is this kind of thing we are talking about when we talk about America as the keeper of the flame of liberty, it is the simple truth. Without America, liberty will die, at the hand of the Globalists, the Islamists, or both.

I’m reminded of what the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King said in his Letter from a Birmingham Jail:

You express a great deal of anxiety over our willingness to break laws. This is certainly a legitimate concern. Since we so diligently urge people to obey the Supreme Court’s decision of 1954 outlawing segregation in the public schools, at first glance it may seem rather paradoxical for us consciously to break laws. One may want to ask: “How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?” The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that “an unjust law is no law at all”

Now, what is the difference between the two? How does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law. To put it in the terms of St. Thomas Aquinas: An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law. Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust.

It’s also useful to others, while this is primarily an American blog, between 20% and a third of our readers are British (mostly English), and we can fearlessly publish stories like this. We have done it here before, when a Reformed preacher, in Norwich, Norfolk was nearly prosecuted for handing out leaflets at a gay pride event a  few years ago. I won’t say we were instrumental, neither were we the only ones doing so.

Tommy Robinson is not a favorite of mine, probably because my British friends consider him far right. But, I’ve done a bit of a crash course today on him, and I’m not so sure they are right. The best interview I could find was with Dave Rubin, who is himself a liberal. An old style one, that listens and thinks, not the progressive trash yelling all the time we have now. Here is that interview, like most of Dave’s, it is a fairly long interview, but it’s also a complex subject.

See what I mean, he doesn’t sound all that different from most of us. I saw little there that I strongly disagree with, anyway.

Now, about that sentence, it seems pretty long for that offense to me, and if you listened to the interview, you already have some idea of what I’m going to say. There are quite a few people who are claiming it to be a disguised death sentence. I’m far from sure that they are not correct. You probably remember the man who was sentenced to a year for leaving a bacon sandwich at a mosque, he was killed within six months, the inquest was not released for almost two years.

Note that this is a screenshot. Caolan Robertson was forced to delete the Tweet because of the gag order. Stefan Molyneux:

The Nazis called this sort of thing Nacht und Nebel (night and fog), one of the more descriptive terms of art for it is “to disappear a person”. Both Stalin and Mao were also fond of the practice. Britain can’t quite pull that off yet but give them a bit of time and practice, I’m sure they’ll figure it out. It’s nothing less than a method of rewriting history.

But do understand, the right to free speech is inherently the right to offend. That is why in The Friends of Voltaire, Hall wrote the phrase: “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it“. (which is often misattributed to Voltaire himself) as an illustration of Voltaire’s beliefs.

The only acceptable limitations are words that cause a panic, like shouting “Fire” in a crowded theater, although note it is recommended if there is a fire in that theater, and is also fine if the theater is empty, the other one is what we call fighting words, which will almost inevitably lead to a physical fight or violence.

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24 Responses to Police State Britain

  1. Scoop says:

    I notice that the last post of Nicholas at AATW has been scrubbed. Was it because of Steve’s mention of this case? And who scrubbed it? Seems rather odd to me when it was nothing other than asking opinions about the case in the comments. But then, if the Govt. wants to shut down or control free speech, which seems the direction the UK is going, then it is not surprising. I can’t help but be suspicious that the culprit behind the scrubbing of the post is simply government whitewashing. Am I wrong or does anyone actually know?

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    • NEO says:

      I don’t know, but C is vulnerable, and we were skating pretty close to the line, it’s also possible that Nicholas is vulnerable. We’ve been there before, when we went private. I am as well, but doubt we’ll ever know. That was mostly commenters, as well. Sad to see Britain going down this road. Very little said on any British blogs BTW.

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      • Scoop says:

        Yeah, I bet there were plenty of blogs but doubt many got past the algorithms in place to block them. Police state? You betcha. As soon as free speech is lost you cannot pretend to be part of the Free World; if that even exists anymore.

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        • NEO says:

          I have trouble thinking that you’re any kind of free without it. Could be algorithms, could also be cautious bloggers, I’d rather not end up in prison with a radical Muslim majority myself. Kind of hard to really blame them. But they’re going to have to free themselves, we’ve learned that lesson, but we’ll write about it for them. If we hear about stuff.

          It does, from the Alleghenies to the Rockies, with an outpost in Israel. Back to 1940.

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        • Scoop says:

          Sad times that I suspect few of us ever thought we’d witness during our lifetimes.

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        • NEO says:

          Very. France or Germany, maybe. But Britain?

          It’s being shoved down the memory hole – I just saw this, as a Tweet.

          “It has been made clear to us if we put any more information out than we have that we ourselves face a very real risk of arrest. So thank you to everyone standing up for the truth and for freedom of the press at this moment. Thank you, thank you.”

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        • Scoop says:

          I see little difference between Hitler’s Reich and Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Fidel and the rest of the narcissistic butchers. It starts with the propaganda and lies and ends with laws against hate speech, criticism of the government and all those who might possibly oppose the reigning government line. If you don’t toe the line then you end up in death camps or if you are lucky reeducation camps. Who would have thought that a free country would embrace such practices. They are at the brink of doing a complete about face to their rule of law and sense of freedom and liberty.

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        • NEO says:

          I think they have, not sure if it’s the drunken Belgian or the Vicar’s daughter, or both. But it doesn’t matter, really. Good run since King Alfred, but, “Jack of Norfolk, be not too bold, For Dickon, thy master, is bought and sold.”

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        • Scoop says:

          I doubt it matters how long a country does well when they finally give up their heritage for that proverbial bowl of pottage and sell themselves to the highest bidder (which are the globalists who fund their reelections and expect the government to fall in line with their own personal desires). The people be damned; money and power trumps the ignorant peasants.

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        • NEO says:

          Yep, so far the leftists have won this one.

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        • Scoop says:

          The real awakening will come when the folks that have enjoyed ‘protective status especially from hate speech laws’ take over and the progressive elites end up at the head of the line for the chopping blocks.

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        • NEO says:

          Yep, and they will. 20 years and it’ll be St Paul’s mosque, unless they wake up.

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        • Scoop says:

          Indeed so, NEO. And at the rate they are deteriorating it may take far less time that that. It just goes to prove that if you snooze, you lose.

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        • NEO says:

          Yep. We got lucky, thanks to the founders, and Trump, maybe, but the last decade or two have been a close run thing.

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        • Scoop says:

          I know, it was touch and go for awhile and I was awakened to the fact at how fragile our freedom is unless we unite and are committed to defend it at all costs.

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        • NEO says:

          That’s the message the average Brit missed, or ignored. Plenty did here too, of course.

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      • Nicholas says:

        I had to for safety reasons. Apologies to you both for not emailing in advance. Hope you both understand .

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        • NEO says:

          We do, do what you have to. You’re always welcome here, to contribute too, if you want to, or can safely.

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        • Nicholas says:

          When I am a qualified lawyer, I want to plead these cases but I can’t give them ammo to keep me out of the profession . Thanks for being a good friend .

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        • NEO says:

          Understand, completely. 🙂 We try.

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      • I also noticed how that particular post disappeared. A bit startling…

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        • NEO says:

          I assume you found the explanation. I understand why, The UK’s turning into a bit of a minefield these days, especially for conservative Christians.

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  2. the unit says:

    It’s no laughing matter I realize. But I keep smiling. Why? because we’ll escape the thought police and hurricanes just barely by the hairs on our shinny shin shins. 🙂

    P.S. be in the West quad of this tropical storm, gonna escape any bad stuff. 🙂

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    • NEO says:

      Nope, it’s not, but yeah, there but for the grace of God we would be in the same place.

      Good, glad to hear that! 🙂

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