Time for Some Pilot Shit
July 22, 2019 17 Comments
One for us?
Well, we’ll see.
The new Top Gun had better be teeming with toxic masculinity or I’m not watching. https://t.co/e5zmuRftH0
— Vicki McKenna (@VickiMcKenna) July 19, 2019
I’m with her on that, I want those big brass ones clanking so loud they’re heard from Peking to Tehran, and if they are not, the movie deserves to fail.
Then there is this, which, in truth is both annoying and offensive.
There’s a new Top Gun movie coming out. And Maverick is wearing the same leather jacket – only this time it’s Communist Party of China-approved, so the Japanese and Taiwanese flag patches are gone (screenshot on right is from the new trailer)… pic.twitter.com/gUxFNFNUKX
— Mark MacKinnon (@markmackinnon) July 19, 2019
I have to admit I’m quite weary of this pandering. We used to make films for Americans, and the world loved (and still loves) them. Why this bullshit.
But OK, it does give us an excuse. Tony Daniel over at The Federalist reviews the FWS’s (Topgun) original OIC Dan Pedersen’s book.
In his engaging and succinct memoir Top Gun: American Story, Topgun’s original commanding officer Dan Pedersen argues that “what matters is the man, not the machine,” and because of this truism, pilot training will always be far more important than the technology of jet fighters for winning battles in the sky. At present, says Pedersen, “Something is rotten in Washington, and one day, sadly, we will lose a war because of it.”
Pedersen claims that the Navy lacks relatively cheap fighter jets for training such as the old F-14 Tomcats (the “Top Gun” jets in the movie) and others. He cites a price tag for the new F-35 as $330 million per plane. The service can’t buy and maintain a large number of trainers at those prices, he says. As a consequence, much of fighter pilot training must be done on simulators, which, in Pedersen’s view, are an inadequate substitute for real flight time.
More ominously, Pedersen says the Navy has once again been beguiled by the siren song of technological triumphalism and has lost the will to properly instruct pilots in dogfighting techniques. This was precisely the situation during the early years of Vietnam, and it led to devastating American losses, and ultimately to the creation of Topgun, the U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School (the Navy spells it “Topgun,” without the space between words).
Unfortunately, claims Pedersen, bureaucratic rot and self-destructive rivalry and jealousy have set in in the years since the 1969 founding of that “graduate school for fighter pilots.” Pedersen suggests this is partly due to blowback from the 1986 movie Top Gun, and the lasting cultural cache it bestowed on the U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School as a result.
Topgun is no longer located at Naval Air Station Miramar (which is now owned by the Marines), but was moved inland in 1996 to Naval Air Station Fallon in Nevada. Although Topgun still operates as an independent command, the school has been largely subsumed within the Navy’s Strike Warfare Center at NAS Fallon.
Do read it all, he makes a good case, in an argument that has been going on since the early sixties. For the most part, he is correct, give me a properly trained man, with close to the same capabilities and he will triumph, but technology is also important. Say if Sidewinder had had the problems that Harpoon did, now what? Because the F4 did not have a gun.
We abandoned dogfight training because of the Navy’s faith in missile technology. Most of our aircrews didn’t know how to fight any other way. Yet our own rules of engagement kept us from using what we were taught. The rules of engagement specifically prohibited firing from beyond visual range. To shoot a missile at an aircraft, a fighter pilot first needed to visually confirm it was a MiG and not a friendly plane. . . . Yet three years along, the training squadron in California was still teaching long-range intercept tactics to the exclusion of everything else. Our training was not applicable to the air war in Vietnam.
And that was one of the major problems then…and now as well. We do not fight as we train. We train some of the best warriors in the world, and then our ROE force them to fight with at least one hand behind the back. The Marquess of Queensbury is long dead, and our opponents don’t fight by his rules. Time to take the gloves off.
I’d be far less opposed to using our forces if I had any idea that they would be used to win a victory, and then leave. No more of this nation-building crap, You got yourself into a war with the United States, you got the hell beat out of you, now it’s up to you to fix it, or not, not our problem. The world ain’t no china shop. It’s a place where actions have consequences and many of them are fatal.
That’s my take, anyway. Will I see the movie? Depends on what Vicki said above. But probably not in a theater, my local ones have crap sound, and if jet engines don’t shake the joint, what’s the point?
Yeah, its not only pilots that suffer. My dad used to say that the new naval officer is lost if he loses the use of his electronics. They don’t know how to use a sextant, a compass or a sliderule anymore to figure out where they are. 🙂
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I still have my early ’60’s Dietzgen slide. It’s in the bottom of some drawer just on top of my sextant. Alas, my skills have gone ED for their use. 🙂
There’s a slide rule museum showing one owned by Rear Admiral Forrest (Dusty) Rhoades he used prior to and in WWII. He’s not mentioned at Google or DuckDuckGo. Just a guy who did his service for our country.
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~cacunithistories/military/USS_South_Dakota.html#RADM_Rhoads
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I doubt many today could even recognize a sextant or a sliderule even if you put one in front of them; much less have the knowledge to use them. I have forgotten how myself. It takes practice and continual use.
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Kidding about having a sextant. I think my user manuel is still with my slide.
And as for no mention of the Admiral on those sites, I meant no page for him, like i.e. for A$AP Rocky on WIKI 🙂
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I still have my slide rule, and use it some. A sextant well…I know what it is! 🙂
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The Admiral’s slide rule was for sale on Ebay, by his grandson. I think it’s in the slide rule museum now.
Reminds me about an old friend. About fifteen years older. He passed away over 10 years ago. His family cleaning out his stuff threw his state issued real POW (WWII) car tag in the trash. I took it out and wears it on my utility trailer ever since. Nobody has ever noticed it, or at least asked me about it if they did. I think of old Cecil Waggoner each time I see it.
Of course, my trailer only goes outta my yard a couple of times a year so’s anybody would see it anyways. 🙂
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The new toys are great, but what happens when the batteries are flat. 🙂
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How about an EMP? 🙂
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Even more to the point, but one would think the navy thought of that. It was old science when I was in college. 🙂
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True. I expect the electronics is ‘hardened’ and I suspect that navigation officers are chosen for their ability to go ‘old school’ if necessary. But I don’t know if anyone can fill in for them. like in days of old, if he is incapacitated or killed in action. It would be interesting to know how much cross-training is done in todays military.
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It would be. Seems to me it was a point of pride with the Navy (and even the Air Force) that all officers had that skill, but then again they were flying steam aircraft back then.
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Absolutely.
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