Some Additional Thoughts

I sent a copy of the article I Don’t Need Proof to my younger sister. I don’t think she’d ever heard of the Shroud of Turin. But she likes to read my writing and is happy that I’m writing again, so, I sent it to her. After reading it, she sent it to her priest and to our older sister. Evidently at last night’s Bible study at her church (New Hampshire has different ‘shelter’ regulations than say, here in Florida) and her priest had some information that he shared about the Shroud and a couple of the people in the group asked if they could get a copy of the article and so I sent her the link.

I was discussing this rather interesting (at least to me) occurrence with a very dear friend who mentioned, quite sagely (of course!), that we never know ‘who we touch’. That gave me a great deal to think upon. It’s very true; we never know who we touch with a kind act or an insight or a new thought. It led me to think of what we are told in church, about planting seeds; you tell someone about the Gospel of Jesus and you never know if they do anything about what you’ve shared with them – I don’t think we’re supposed to know, quite frankly – but you’ve ‘planted’ a seed of an idea, a direction to investigate, a single frame of a larger picture.

There are many possible scenarios. I considered this one: suppose you met an atheist and asked them to watch some of the Shroud videos – or even just to look at the Shroud. When an atheist is confronted with something state of the art, top of line science can’t dispel, would it make them reconsider their stance on Jesus, firstly, and the resurrection, secondly? What if the videos were shared with someone who had lost their faith? Would the viewing of the videos put bellows to dying spark and breathe it to life again? Would someone from a non-Christian background be effected? If they were confronted with Isa not being a ‘good teacher’ but truly God, and not Allah?

If someone had no faith background whatsoever, which would be hard to fathom but for the number of polls taken that show an abundance of people with no religious knowledge, would a person of ‘no faith’ be moved to search for Jesus? If they were so moved to search for Jesus and become a believer based on the Shroud, would they be less of a believer? I make mention again of “blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe” – would seeing the Shroud, the purported burial cloth of Christ, negate their having ‘found Jesus’? That’s a deep theological question to which I have no answer.

I’m reminded of there being only one way to God – St. John, 14:6 ” … No one comes to the Father except through me.” But there are many roads and ways to Jesus. Can one be less good than another? I don’t know.

9 Responses to Some Additional Thoughts

  1. A great follow-up to a great post, Audre. I suspect that an atheist faced with the Shroud of Turin video would, nine times out of ten, retreat further into their atheism, at least initially. There is a strong human impulse to double-down on our beliefs when faced with incontrovertible evidence. But I do think it’s compelling, and could sway the un-churched—or at least encourage a closer look at Scriptures.

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    • audremyers says:

      Thank you for your kind words. You’re quite correct – we only need look at Democrats when confronted with the truth.

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      • Amen. That’s why I’ve become increasingly jaded about the prospects of “flipping” or turning them—unless they’re caught in their errors while still young. After their early 20s, you can write them off as lost in 90% of cases. That’s a real shame.

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        • audremyers says:

          You make a valid point. Thanks.

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        • Reminds me of a post I wrote recently: https://theportlypolitico.wordpress.com/2020/04/22/orangutan-keeps-swinging/

          Yes—they are fixated on the negative ALL THE TIME. Progressives can’t enjoy anything life, because they demand perfection—an impossible standard. They are masters of sacrificing the good to the perfect.

          I’m surprised your sister didn’t object to the exploitation of animals for our fleeting amusement, or something like that. “That monkey is dead, and was posed that way” (I’ve heard that regarding old greeting cards that featured images of cats and dogs in human poses, wearing clothes, etc.). For them, it’s some profound, shocking abuse—“Ah-ha! Here is why you can’t enjoy this innocent thing, because it’s corrupted and wicked!”

          Talk about neo-Puritanism. Yeesh!

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    • lowelldw says:

      On the shroud of Turin, I do believe it is in fact proof, looking at all the scientific evidence. That said it still takes faith also but its a starting point and the atheist who worked on the shroud did believe and become Believer. One reason to not discount or care about it just because you don’t need evidence is flawed if you care about all, and that because Thomas who people called doubting Thomas because he said he would not believe until he seen the nail holes in Yeshua’s / Jesus’s Hands.
      Here is something to Ponder that would have seemed impossible in past times. And we need to Remember that the catholic church has the shroud and is an apostate church with a reason to keep the truth from the people and why they never allowed samples from an original uncontaminated part of the shroud, not and area that was reweaved in the middle ages which is why they have differing dates on carbon dating and why I believe they had them test that area to disprove it as genuine.
      2nd Thessalonians 3-4, 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God. Ok it was claimed that there is Blood on the Shroud of Turin with no father DNA & I think they proved it, and it’s now possible to Clone animals & I believe Humans, so if it was truly Yeshua’s/Jesus’s Blood, and they cloned him is this an attempt of the Antichrist to sit in the Temple of God’s Son as if he were the Son of God?
      Could be and makes perfect sense from their twisted view and the Evidence as I see it!!!!!!! And the Holy Scriptures tell us that we are the Temple of God and Yeshua his only Begotten Son is closer than any other human. The Father’s Spirit Dwelled in his Son, He said in ** John 14:11, 11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake. ** And in John 14:20, 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

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      • audremyers says:

        Thank you for this very deeply felt comment; when someone writes an article, they have to be prepared for slings, arrows, and mud so I’m touched that you shared so much of what is in your heart and the kind manner of your presentation.

        My father was the eldest of five children – they were all baptized and confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church. When my father met my mother and they decided to marry, the issue of religion came up. Dad was Catholic and Mom was Lutheran; parental pressure on both sides caused my parents to convert to Episcopalian. So us four kids were baptized and confirmed in the Anglican Church. Today, of course, the Episcopal Church of the USA (ECUSA) is an apostate church and so I belong to a Continuing Anglican Church; my younger sister belongs to a Reformed Episcopal Church, my older sister is now leaning toward the Lutheran Church, and my brother doesn’t much care. All of my cousins, aunts and uncles are Roman Catholic.

        I told you all that so that when I tell you I have no problem with the Roman Catholic Church you’ll understand that I was brought up with an appreciation for both. I don’t see the Church of Rome as the great Satan. When God sets something in place, it’s perfect – until man gets a hold of it and messes everything up. We can see that man-made chaos in all denominations, to lesser and greater degrees. It’s a sad statement of fact.

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  2. the unit says:

    Less good? Interesting. Funny how for so many years I hated my middle name. 🙂

    🙂

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